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Livejournal highlights special edition — Harry Potter 7. [Jul. 26th, 2007|01:40 pm]
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Hello. I used to do these posts where I'd list a few links to interesting posts that had turned up recently on my friends list. I haven't done one for a while, so here is a Harry Potter 7 special edition. What this is, how to opt out, and previous editions.

For the avoidance of doubt: all the posts linked below are about Harry Potter 7, and may contain spoilers. Comments on this post may also contain spoilers. (Please do take that as an invitation to make spoilery comments, especially if you had something to say about the book but didn't feel it was worth a post of its own. I am interested.)

Also, if anyone not on my friends list made a good post, please feel free to link to it in comments (if I missed someone on my friends list, let me know and I'll edit the post, but do check whether they've opted out in the poll above first; also, I'm not linking to posts about buying the book, but posts about the story itself).

Other recent Potter-related posts:

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[User Picture]From: flick
2007-07-26 12:47 pm (UTC)
Huzzah!

/me goes off to read them
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[User Picture]From: rjw1
2007-07-26 12:54 pm (UTC)
ive not read the books. just heard peopel prattle on about it. ive read the plot sypnosis on wikipedia. i do hope no one was surprised harry was one of the horcruxes.
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[User Picture]From: boyofbadgers
2007-07-26 01:00 pm (UTC)
freakytigger made an excellent, mostly spoiler free post. It's currently friends locked, but he also covers some similar ground on Freaky Trigger itself.
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[User Picture]From: nou
2007-07-26 01:53 pm (UTC)
I can't read the friends-only post, but the Freaky Trigger one; yes, interesting.

Is the wizarding world actually "recreating" bureaucracy and pettiness and so on, or is that just coming out of the kind of people who end up in it? I mean, what decides who does end up in the wizarding world? OK, many (most?) are born into it, but there's inflow via the muggle-borns — and I don't remember ever seeing any explanation of what causes a muggle-born. The British wizarding world seems fairly flat and homogeneous in comparison with British society in general.
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[User Picture]From: lnr
2007-07-26 01:00 pm (UTC)
I have just carefully added this post to my memories without reading any of the comments on it. I'm re-reading them in French at the moment (just starting book 4) and will read book 7 when it comes out in late September, and will be doing by best to avoid spoilers until then.

I'm still interested in what other people think though, so this will be useful then!

Sadly I appear to be reading faster than expected, and will probably reach the end of book 6 too soon.
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[User Picture]From: nou
2007-07-26 01:54 pm (UTC)
I thought it might be useful for that sort of thing too :) I'm aiming to keep adding any posts that people make from now on.
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[User Picture]From: ghoti
2007-07-26 01:04 pm (UTC)
I rather enjoyd this running commentary.

Also; I got mentioned! Thankyou!
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[User Picture]From: pne
2007-07-26 01:28 pm (UTC)

running commentary

Thanks for the pointer; I enjoyed it quite a bit, too!
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[User Picture]From: pne
2007-07-26 01:18 pm (UTC)
Something I didn't notice when I read the story but that someone (I forget who) pointed out to me:

Harry is Teddy's godfather. But what, exactly, does that entail?

Even if it doesn't entail "ensuring the child gets a religious upbringing should the parents not be able to provide one", one could have expected it to entail raising the child once its parents are gone.

However, in the epilogue, it seems that Teddy was raised by his grandmother, not by Harry.

Perhaps I'm simply misinterpreting the term "godfather", though, and it's more of a title than something that carries certain responsibilities.
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[User Picture]From: julietk
2007-07-26 01:37 pm (UTC)
That surely depends on circumstances of other people available for raising-of-child, no?

(I know that if my parents had died when I was little, my godmother wasn't the person who they named in their will to raise my sister & I; because she lived in Edinburgh & already had 2 kids of her own, among other reasons.)

In the book - Harry is supposed to be barely 18 when Lupin & Tonks die, hasn't even finished his education, & has just come out of a massively stressful situation (after which he's going to have a fair amount of mental rebuilding to do). If there's someone else more qualified to raise Teddy (e.g. his grandmother), then surely they'd be better off doing so? It is made clear in the epilogue that Harry's seeing a lot of him.
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[User Picture]From: nou
2007-07-26 01:57 pm (UTC)
raising the child once its parents are gone

Is that what it means in Christianity? The wizarding world seems to be atheist_(Christian) rather than Christian, so I think Harry being Teddy's godfather is more of an honourary "great friend of the family" title rather than anything involving actual responsibilities.
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[User Picture]From: pne
2007-07-26 02:07 pm (UTC)
Is that what it means in Christianity?

I was under the impression that a godfather was the person responsible for a child's religious education, should the parents not be able to provide it. (And I presume that by extension, they'd be responsible for ensuring the child is taken care of if the parents cannot do so themselves, either by taking in the child themselves or making sure it's places somewhere else, e.g. with relatives.)

But I could be wrong; my denomination doesn't "do" godparents.
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[User Picture]From: pne
2007-07-26 02:11 pm (UTC)
FWIW, Wikipedia says that "Traditionally, the godparents were counted informally responsible for ensuring that the child's religious education was carried out, and for caring for the child should he/she be orphaned." (s.v. godparent); I suppose "traditionally" is the operative word here.
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[User Picture]From: nou
2007-07-26 02:14 pm (UTC)
I suppose "traditionally" is the operative word here.

Or maybe my point about the wizarding world not actually being Christian?
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[User Picture]From: pne
2007-07-26 02:21 pm (UTC)
Sorry; I was insufficiently clear.

Yes, they do not seem Christian (or even overtly religious); however, my expectation was that the non-religious part of godparentship (sc. "the godparents were counted informally responsible for [...] caring for the child should he/she be orphaned.") would be/could have been what was intended in the book.

That was also what my comment about "traditionally" was meant to convey -- that apparently, not even this non-religious relationship may have been intended but rather, as you say, more something of an honorary title.
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[User Picture]From: rjw1
2007-07-26 02:07 pm (UTC)
Harry is Teddy's godfather. But what, exactly, does that entail?

making people sleep with the fishes.
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[User Picture]From: julietk
2007-07-26 01:34 pm (UTC)
As well as being somewhat sexist, it's also *massively* heterocentric. Although one might argue that the fanfic culture makes up for that ;-)
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[User Picture]From: nou
2007-07-26 02:02 pm (UTC)
Yes. Not convinced it's significantly more heterocentric than sexist though (if it's ever useful to try and quantify these things).
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From: ex_lark_asc
2007-07-26 02:10 pm (UTC)
Oh you noticed that too..?
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[User Picture]From: johnckirk
2007-07-26 10:09 pm (UTC)
That doesn't bother me, but you might like to take a look at Diane Duane's "Wizardry" series: there are several female characters in active roles, and arguably two of the male characters are in a long term gay relationship.
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From: ex_lark_asc
2007-07-26 02:10 pm (UTC)
*makes entry public*
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[User Picture]From: nou
2007-07-26 02:12 pm (UTC)
Post edited, thank you!
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[User Picture]From: juggzy
2007-07-26 02:31 pm (UTC)
I've made mine public, too, but will probably put it back to friends only after the weekend.
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[User Picture]From: johnckirk
2007-07-26 10:03 pm (UTC)
There's some info from an interview with Rowling here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/
That gives some more details on what happens after the epilogue, e.g. what the various characters now do for a living.
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