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Gifts. [Oct. 8th, 2006|10:34 pm]
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I have a lot of posts queued up that never seem to have a good time for posting; it always seems like someone's going to think it's purely about them. Luckily, a situation[0] arose today which sparked some potentially interesting thoughts but without being anything anyone would get their knickers in a twist about, so I can post the thoughts now without upsetting anyone.

[0] For the curious: I wrote some code a while ago — unasked — for a project that I'm not directly connected with, and sent it over to someone who was connected with it. I found out today that they don't want it. No big deal.

Anyway, on to the thoughts. They're about gifts.

If I give you something, it's yours. It's so thoroughly yours that you can do whatever you like with it. You can love it and cherish it for the rest of your life, or you can throw it away the next day. It's yours. The gifts I give don't have attached conditions; I wouldn't consider them to be gifts if they did.

I would be more upset by finding out that out of guilt you'd held on to something you really didn't want, than by finding out you'd got rid of it.

I rarely give presents at “expected” times. You're extremely unlikely to get a $religious_holiday present from me, and you're not all that likely to get a birthday present. What you are likely to get is an “I saw this and thought you would like it” present, or an “I thought you needed something nice to happen” present.

Sometimes, of course, these occasions coincide (and then circumstances conspire against my actually delivering the thing — for example, I still have an undelivered birthday present for jvvw, somewhere; oh, and a Christmas card for rejs written in about 2001).

So I wondered how the rest of you feel about this sort of thing. I made a little poll, but I would love to hear more in comments. This is also a rare public post, so feel free to point people at it. If interestingness ensues, I may make more public ones.

Apologies to mahogany and rjw1, who answered the first version of this poll; I didn't realise until I looked at your answers how difficult the commas in the first version made it to read. Please please fill it in again!

Note: in this poll, “I” refers to you, the person answering.

If I gave someone a present, I would be unhappy if they:

threw it away without telling me
0(0.0%)
asked me if I minded them throwing it away
0(0.0%)
threw it away and told me they did
0(0.0%)
gave it away without telling me
0(0.0%)
asked me if I minded them giving it away
0(0.0%)
gave it away and then told me
0(0.0%)
put it into storage without telling me
0(0.0%)
asked me if I minded them putting it into storage
0(0.0%)
put it into storage and then told me
0(0.0%)
kept it but would have preferred not to
8(22.2%)

If I gave someone a present, I would think less of them if they:

threw it away without telling me
1(5.9%)
asked me if I minded them throwing it away
0(0.0%)
threw it away and told me they did
4(23.5%)
gave it away without telling me
0(0.0%)
asked me if I minded them giving it away
0(0.0%)
gave it away and then told me
0(0.0%)
put it into storage without telling me
0(0.0%)
asked me if I minded them putting it into storage
0(0.0%)
put it into storage and then told me
0(0.0%)
kept it but would have preferred not to
1(5.9%)
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Comments:
[User Picture]From: julietk
2006-10-09 07:16 am (UTC)
I'm with you that I'd much rather people didn't keep stuff they didn't want. (I am anti-clutter! And trying to get better at this sort of thing myself...).

I'd be kind of upset, though, if someone threw something away, just because it's a bit wasteful. If they didn't want it & couldn't think of anyone else who did, I'd rather they gave it back to me & I could find another home for it (at least, if it's something of that sort - if it was, I dunno, something like a compilation CD then no prob, it's reproducible anyway & it's just the plastic being wasted). I do quite often say this when I'm giving people presents; especially as it's not uncommon that what I've got them is also something I think is good myself :-) (not because I'm buying for me not for them, but because it's unsurprisingly not uncommon that I share tastes in things with my friends; and I think one is more likely to buy a present for someone related to a thing-that-you-share, because you know more about it than you would about thing-of-theirs-that-you-don't-share. e.g. I would never buy dogrando anything camera-related without a very specific written down request :-) ).
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[User Picture]From: nou
2006-10-10 02:17 pm (UTC)
If they didn't want it & couldn't think of anyone else who did, I'd rather they gave it back to me & I could find another home for it [...] I do quite often say this when I'm giving people presents

Hm, yes, maybe I should start saying this too! Though no doubt there are some people who'd take offence at it.
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